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    🎓 Online education: yay or nay?

    By the time the average miscers kid is ready for college (and with the advancement of virtual reality), the concept of physically attending college for an education may sound astonishing to them. However, for right now there's still some question as to the quality and capability of these online educations.

    For many working adults an online education can be a godsend, but my biggest hesitation at the moment is how well these online degrees will be received?

    Some schools claim their diploma looks identical to the traditional schooling degree, so no one knows any difference. Is that the case with most schools, or do you think it will matters in credibility and/or with employers? HR?

    CLIFF: Do people still look down on online degrees?
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    It's a murky question to answer.

    Some managers/HR departments will not care where you received your degree from because it's just another check mark off their list. Whereas others will only hire applicants from reputable schools with a long standing history. As I am sure you can already guess by now, online schooling is a fairly new concept, and like you suggested, quality can be a concern. Cheating is another frequent problem from what I've seen.

    Have you tried checking with your local universities to see if they offer online classes? I know most do.
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    Originally Posted by Burgerbuger View Post
    It's a murky question to answer.

    Some managers/HR departments will not care where you received your degree from because it's just another check mark off their list. Whereas others will only hire applicants from reputable schools with a long standing history. As I am sure you can already guess by now, online schooling is a fairly new concept, and like you suggested, quality can be a concern. Cheating is another frequent problem from what I've seen.

    Have you tried checking with your local universities to see if they offer online classes? I know most do.
    In fact, my email is running over with their pestering sign up emails. I did recently get approved for an education grant, but it is time sensitive. The school of inquiry has a live webinar coming up next week, so I'm really looking for some direction/advice as to what questions I need to be asking.

    At this point, I don't know enough about online degrees, or how they're received in the industries to ask the necessary questions.

    I was hoping for someone with an online degree to tell me about any roadblocks, limitations, or pitfalls. Is it safe enough or still risky? What I really want to know is does the diploma say online or is it in the transcripts? I need to make a decision soon.
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    from what I've seen you can get an online degree from some reputable schools these days.
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    Yay!

    It's unfortunate that today you can order almost everything online, pay almost all bills online, some companies even conduct video interviews online, but you try to get an education online and people Bert stare or don't respect you!

    I'm currently enrolled in a masters degree online. This isn't some crappy everyone gets a degree program. This is a legit real school that are offering an online distance option. I could pack my bags and move to the school's campus and do my classes there. But I'm miles miles away saving money on room and food. Others in the class are in the same boat too. Also I have to be around the family and help out right now. Plus I work so this helps and it's flexible.

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    Mostly social. I got my undergrad while being at the campus. You could see people, talk to people, find people to eat with at dinning halls, and of course sloots to get your dink wet. If you needed help you could walk into some tutoring center, get your essay looked over. Online you don't have that socializing luxury. Most online program will have an open forum where students are required to discuss the week's material. About 2 posts are mandated and you lose points for being a dick. But you can tell a bulk of the kids are really just writing sh**t like "Oh yes Bromi, good points. I agree". If we were face to face the discussions could be better. But I've also sat in actual classrooms where no one bothered to speak. Networking is another huge part of school. During undergrad most of the bio majors knew each other, so kids would pass down old exams, kids were mostly premeds so you felt a bond that you were all struggling together to get into med school. Online classes you're just too far to make that connection. There's an introduce yourself thread but not much networking unless someone says they are enjoying engineer or something then you private message them on the side? These can be overcome. If you need help, ask the teacher in advance before the assignment is due. And message one of your classmates without asking directly for the answer so you don't get accused of trying to cheat.

    My diploma will NOT say online. It will say University of "Whereever Bromioso is getting his degree from". I can go there and walk in the ceremony or just have them mail it to me. Transcript only has name of class, semester taken, and grade. The only time you see "web" is in your schedule when it says what room & building the class will meet in.

    Overall, I'm glad I'm doing this online. I basically work two jobs and I don't have to physically be present in a classroom. I have roughly 2 weeks between assignments so I plan my time around there.

    Boyo, I'm not doing crossword puzzles and playing bingo. These professors are real, the assignments require critical thinking, I'll be writing research papers and will be using references, etc. Level of difficulty is no different than what I experienced when I was in undergrad. And I know things will get harder as I move on up into the level 500s... for one of my requirements for the degree, I have to attend some events. Also I plan my program and concentration with a real advisor!

    For reference - I'm doing Environmental Science.

    I'm on mobile and I'm in a hurry. I'll try to get yyou some pics of paste some of the syllabi when I get home later.

    every day people make it seem I'm not going to a "real". Will just lol when I get my masters and these cucks are still stuck with their bachelor's.
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    I think online degrees have the same reputation as online dating has. It works for some people, but for the most part I think most people are going to have better luck in person.

    I'm a very visual person when it comes to dating and taking online classes. I need to see the girls facial expressions, the way she handles situations, her confidence, the way she carries herself. The same goes for my professors. I don't want to read a power point and stare at a screen all day. I need to have some inspiration or see a teacher talk passionately about a subject. I value the interaction that comes with doing things in person.

    The social skills you acquire in college and networking capabilities are skills and attributes that people don't realize until it's too late. You can't really put a dollar amount on this, but at the end of the day the college creates value with this. Now when it comes to online classes...it's partly why you see awkward 30 yo girls on tinder and bumble with no friends in their pictures where it looks like their face has an issue with cracking a real smile. It's like they've never done it before.

    It's the same reason I'll never get behind virtual reality. I can afford to do the real thing, so that's the life I'm going to live. I can better assess a situation in person, and that goes for just about anything.

    If an online degree or online gaming is how you want to live your life, by all means go for it. But I find value in the way I'm doing life.
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    My dad just finished his online MBA from a legit brick and mortar school in the US. He'll be walking for graduation in May. Was very challenging for him considering he works in medicine right now. Like a poster above said, discussion boards suck compared to what you could get from face-face interaction, but the assignments can be just as if not more challenging.

    As for your Cliff question: As long as it's not from a for profit school or some random directional school, then no.
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    The real reason to get an education is to learn, not just get through class and get a piece of paper to hang on your wall. The question is which one will you learn the most? There is a lot to sort out here. The right answer for one person may not be for the other. Honestly I think you will learn more with direct hands on type interaction, but you don't need that on everything. Once you get the job it will be all about your abilities and what you know.
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    Originally Posted by Dre4 View Post
    My dad just finished his online MBA from a legit brick and mortar school in the US. He'll be walking for graduation in May. Was very challenging for him considering he works in medicine right now. Like a poster above said, discussion boards suck compared to what you could get from face-face interaction, but the assignments can be just as if not more challenging.

    As for your Cliff question: As long as it's not from a for profit school or some random directional school, then no.
    Rep your dad for me irl, would yuh? My old man keeps talking about going to school but then always follows it with excuses and who will pay his bills when he goes etc etc... mirrin what you dad did. Srs. What branch of medicine is he in?


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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    The real reason to get an education is to learn, not just get through class and get a piece of paper to hang on your wall. The question is which one will you learn the most? There is a lot to sort out here. The right answer for one person may not be for the other. Honestly I think you will learn more with direct hands on type interaction, but you don't need that on everything. Once you get the job it will be all about your abilities and what you know.
    Direct hands on itrxn? Nothing replaces actually being out there in the field and working, Jason. But online schools have found ways around this. Like I said, down the line in my program, I'll be required to attend some events and write a out the experience. Somebody might be required to get x amount of hours doing something,.have it signed off and mailed in to their program advisor. Some science prerequisite classes for medical school are online and you buy the lab kit so you can do the laboratory component at home. It's just that online learning is a new concept and people haven't fully accepted it yet. Give it time and see.... also consider how many people talk about how extremely helpful Khan Academy.

    After you get the job, your willingness to put in some time outside of work to get good at what you do might also be a factor. A lot to people I know that are really good at what they do also put in many hours into mastering what they do.
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    Originally Posted by bromioso View Post
    Rep your dad for me irl, would yuh? My old man keeps talking about going to school but then always follows it with excuses and who will pay his bills when he goes etc etc... mirrin what you dad did. Srs. What branch of medicine is he in?

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    He's been repped more times than I can count lol. He's worked as an OB/GYN for about 30 years and been doubling as a healthcare administrator in the local health system for the past 10. He's hoping to get out of delivering kids within the next year and get into medical consulting or at the very least be an administrator at a place where he can be paid more.
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    I have a college diploma in land reclamation ( environmental). I wanted to get an undergraduate degree without going to school for 2-4 years. I found an online university that offers my program on my schedule.. I also work in my industry it's a win win man! Making money and continuing education! You just have to manage your time well and be disciplined.
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    Originally Posted by bromioso View Post
    Direct hands on itrxn? Nothing replaces actually being out there in the field and working, Jason. But online schools have found ways around this. Like I said, down the line in my program, I'll be required to attend some events and write a out the experience. Somebody might be required to get x amount of hours doing something,.have it signed off and mailed in to their program advisor. Some science prerequisite classes for medical school are online and you buy the lab kit so you can do the laboratory component at home. It's just that online learning is a new concept and people haven't fully accepted it yet. Give it time and see.... also consider how many people talk about how extremely helpful Khan Academy.

    After you get the job, your willingness to put in some time outside of work to get good at what you do might also be a factor. A lot to people I know that are really good at what they do also put in many hours into mastering what they do.
    Repped for good response and info. I didn't know that. Hands on, in the field work is the best way to learn. I think that the traditional 4yr program is outdated. It would be better to do a semester on, a semester working. So yes, it might take 8 years to get a BA but you'll have the experience to back it up, and you'll be at the level where a BA will actually help. Most of all you'll learn to apply what you learn as well as retain more of what you learn.
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    thought I'd hop in here. I have a BS in Psychology and graduated from an online school. I have gotten two good paying jobs with it. Nobody cares. As long as the school is regionally accredited and not national, is good. Granted, Some schools carry more clout than others Harvard etc. But by and large it doesn't matter (in my experience anyways.)
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    thought I'd hop in here. I have a BS in Psychology and graduated from an online school. I have gotten two good paying jobs with it. Nobody cares. As long as the school is regionally accredited and not national, is good. Granted, Some schools carry more clout than others Harvard etc. But by and large it doesn't matter (in my experience anyways.)
    Off topic, but what jobs have you found with your BS in Psych? Do you have a Master's as well? I am graduating soon with my BS in Psych as well. I want to go to grad school a few years down the line, but I want to gain work experience for a few years first.
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    It depends on which class.
    I have been taking only online classes for the last year considering the fact that I am working a full time position as a programmer/web developer. Online classes can be very convenient as in not having to attend physical classes. But they can be a lot more work imo
    Personally, I would not take hardcore science classes such as higher maths or physics online. That's why I am keeping those classes for next year, and I am only focusing on the art/social sciences for now.
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    Online classes are good... Online colleges are not.

    Assuming you go to a real school your diploma will look the same.

    Simply put some classes can EASILY be taught online. Others just don't work online.
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    Only if the degree granting school is a reputable non-profit. And don't put on your CV that its an online degree. Just list the university like any other.

    For example, UNC MBA is a top 20 business program that offers distance learning.

    From the Strayer/Phoenix types? Those degrees will actually hurt your CV srs.
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    Plenty of mainstream schools (USC, ASU, Cal Berkley, Stanford are the ones I know for sure) offer 100% online degrees that are SUPER easy to get into. They basically are as easy to get into as the University of Pheonix type schools, but they give you a degree from a legit college everyone knows.

    I've looked into USC the most, and I know their online only degrees come from exactly the same place as their on campus degrees. No one will know the difference. Sure, it takes a little more application time because they're not just 100% after your money, but it took me like 30 minutes to put together my application. I'd look into that before going to the online only schools.
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    HR will look down on online degrees but honestly it won't be a detriment. If the job specifies a particular degree and you have that from an accredited university then you'll be fine. That just fulfills basic requirements. You'll be judge on other factors and unless it's really close between you and another candidate then it's not likely to be a determining factor.
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    Plenty of mainstream schools (USC, ASU, Cal Berkley, Stanford are the ones I know for sure) offer 100% online degrees that are SUPER easy to get into. They basically are as easy to get into as the University of Pheonix type schools, but they give you a degree from a legit college everyone knows.

    I've looked into USC the most, and I know their online only degrees come from exactly the same place as their on campus degrees. No one will know the difference. Sure, it takes a little more application time because they're not just 100% after your money, but it took me like 30 minutes to put together my application. I'd look into that before going to the online only schools.
    Dude USC is STUPID expensive, $5500 per 3 credit hours? Phuck that, thats $70k for a basic masters degree, no thx jeff
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    Dude USC is STUPID expensive, $5500 per 3 credit hours? Phuck that, thats $70k for a basic masters degree, no thx jeff
    It's a private school.... so yeah. Also, their online only programs are significantly cheaper.
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    Sorry to be providing a wishy-washy answer, but it depends.

    Many online degrees aren't worth the paper they are printed on. They just have the students read or watch the video and parrot back the answers to the canned test. I know a couple people who have these and I wonder how (or if) they filled out the application forms by themselves. Yet some people with the same degrees will do fine. But this isn't because of the degree, it's because they are intelligent people who apply themselves.

    If you are going to invest in an online education, let me reiterate what some posters above have said. Get a degree from a real school that has a "distance learning focus," not a for-profit institution that is seeking to make money off people's ignorance (pun very much intended).

    Some online degrees are still looked down on. If you are somewhere where you can get a degree from a physical school - that's usually a better option. But not always. If the field is highly competitive and there are more people than jobs in the field it's a way to winnow down the pool. But if the field is short on people with "Qualification XYZ," then the online version will be considered.
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