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    Straight arm vs bent arm side lateral raise?

    Straight arm I've heard is more strain on your wrist etc and uses less weight, where as bent arm reduces strain but you can use more weight. But people are saying bending the arm is only shortening the lever basically just making the weight lighter by doing so. Is this true or is there any more benefit for having a big bend in the arm over a straight arm or slightly bent arm?
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    Variety and changing the move is the best for results in bodybuilding.
    But if you look at the body mechanically, having the arm straight or bent should not effect the action the target muscle is going through other than having to increase or decrease weight.
    For instance, look at a chest fly....is the chest doing something different than when during a press.
    I stopped doing single joint moves for the most part.
    For the side delt, I do wide grip upright rows with as much weight as possible, going down to 3 reps.

    But as I said at first, variety is key....so I would suggest doing bent arm one week, straight arm the next, maybe upright rows, try cables, etc.
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    Originally Posted by Josh7000 View Post
    Straight arm I've heard is more strain on your wrist etc and uses less weight, where as bent arm reduces strain but you can use more weight. But people are saying bending the arm is only shortening the lever basically just making the weight lighter by doing so. Is this true or is there any more benefit for having a big bend in the arm over a straight arm or slightly bent arm?
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    I prefer a slight bend to help hit the isolation. But with a lot of things it's personal preference.
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    Originally Posted by Josh7000 View Post
    Straight arm I've heard is more strain on your wrist etc and uses less weight, where as bent arm reduces strain but you can use more weight. But people are saying bending the arm is only shortening the lever basically just making the weight lighter by doing so. Is this true or is there any more benefit for having a big bend in the arm over a straight arm or slightly bent arm?
    I think with exercises like this, it has less to do with conventional form than it does with personal preference. But by personal preference, it's not the one that's easier for you, it's the one that you have the best mind-muscle connection with. I've seen plenty of people able to really focus on their delts with the bent arm approach, but I'm able to better isolate if I'm doing straight arm. Whichever you choose, you want the method where you can feel the greatest isolation without cheating.
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    Bending the arm simply reduces the distance the dumbbell has to travel. In a similar fashion that by reducing the radius of a circle you reduce its circumference
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    I wish I could live in a world where people stop saying that they perform side side raises.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    I wish I could live in a world where people stop saying that they perform side side raises.
    Side raises are pretty essential for a shoulder routine, it's where I built most of my shoulder width from.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    I wish I could live in a world where people stop saying that they perform side side raises.
    Come live in Mich, since I have never heard any one call it side side raises...lol...were you talking to someone under 10?
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    Originally Posted by Josh7000 View Post
    Side raises are pretty essential for a shoulder routine, it's where I built most of my shoulder width from.
    Originally Posted by Squid24 View Post
    Come live in Mich, since I have never heard any one call it side side raises...lol...were you talking to someone under 10?
    Lateral =/= shoulder
    lateral = side
    side lateral raise = side side raise

    All of you calling it side lateral raise are calling it side side raise. Saying front lateral raise, is the same as saying front side raise.
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    I always use a slight bend when doing side laterals
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Lateral =/= shoulder
    lateral = side
    side lateral raise = side side raise

    All of you calling it side lateral raise are calling it side side raise. Saying front lateral raise, is the same as saying front side raise.
    I call them front shoulder raises and either side shoulder raises or lateral raises...never side side raises...lol
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    Originally Posted by Squid24 View Post
    I call them front shoulder raises and either side shoulder raises or lateral raises...never side side raises...lol
    I didn't say you did. Read the title of the thread.

    You quoted my statement with some retort about children saying it.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    I didn't say you did. Read the title of the thread.

    You quoted my statement with some retort about children saying it.
    Ha, I did not get past bent arm...lmao...damn getting old sucks....only read have the thread post....lmao. He did say side side...lmao, so maybe he talked to a 10 yr old...sorry man my bad...lol
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    I didn't say you did. Read the title of the thread.

    You quoted my statement with some retort about children saying it.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Lateral =/= shoulder
    lateral = side
    side lateral raise = side side raise

    All of you calling it side lateral raise are calling it side side raise. Saying front lateral raise, is the same as saying front side raise.
    lmao!!!! also what the heck is a front side rise?
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Lateral =/= shoulder
    lateral = side
    side lateral raise = side side raise

    All of you calling it side lateral raise are calling it side side raise. Saying front lateral raise, is the same as saying front side raise.
    My bad for being a retard only just realised what you meant
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Lateral =/= shoulder
    lateral = side
    side lateral raise = side side raise

    All of you calling it side lateral raise are calling it side side raise. Saying front lateral raise, is the same as saying front side raise.
    Side= direction Lateral= which part of the deltoid so I guess you could still call it side lateral raise?
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    Originally Posted by Josh7000 View Post
    Side= direction Lateral= which part of the deltoid so I guess you could still call it side lateral raise?
    you can do both sides raises also front rase
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