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    Primatene vs. Bronkaid - Noticeable Difference?

    I need to buy one or the other for my upcoming EC Stack. I have read until my eyes burn about both and still don't have a clear answer as to which is the better buy so hopefully you guys can point me in the right direction.

    I know that w/ Primatene you will need double the amount of pills since they are 12.5mg's which means it will be twice as expensive as Bronkaid at 25mg.

    I also know that in sheer numbers, Primatene is BARELY stronger than Bronkaid.

    However, I keep seeing comment after comment of people saying that Primatene blows Bronkaid out of the water which I'm having a hard time understanding. They claim to feel little or nothing from the Bronkaid while the Primatene kicks their @ss. I know Primatene is Ephedrine HCL and Bronkaid is Ephedrine Sulfate, but if I'm not mistaken, they barely differ in Ephedrine content w/ the Primatene being minimally higher.

    My local Wal-Mart has Primatene 60ct boxes for $9.73 and Bronkaid 24ct boxes for $5.98. I know that Bronkaid 60ct usually costs around $10, also. I would need 6 boxes of Primatene 60ct and 3 boxes of Bronkaid 60ct for a full 8-week cycle. That means it would be $60 vs. $30 which is a significant difference. However, if the Primatene truly is that much better than Bronkaid, maybe it is worth the extra amount?

    What do you guys think? Which is the better choice and if you could pm me any good online deals on either, I'd really appreciate that as well.

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    Idk brah, In for answers. But you might want to make sure that they are still supplying Bronkaid and Primatene. Both have been banned from my knowledge, and CVS's have taken them off their shelves.
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    Yeah, I'm positive they still stock it. I actually went this morning to check prices on it. Walmart had the 60ct Primatene and 24ct Bronkaid. I think Bronkaids supplier is shut down for a bit, though.
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    They are not banned. I am getting primatene tabs 60 ct at my local walgreens.
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    Originally Posted by demesjos View Post
    They are not banned. I am getting primatene tabs 60 ct at my local walgreens.
    I believe some people are mistaken the lack of supply as a ban. If you do a google shopping search, you will see that nobody has Bronkaid online right now, however it seems that store pharmacies are still carrying it. I believe Bayer is supposed to start supplying more again within the next month or so. As for Primatene, I found it at numerous places online. However, my local Wal-Mart and Drugstore dot com both have it at around $10 which is the cheapest I've seen it.

    Anyways, enough about that because they are certainly not banned and still available.

    Anyone have answers for my questions on the two products? Thanks!
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    N for answers as to which one is better or the differences
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    Originally Posted by demesjos View Post
    They are not banned. I am getting primatene tabs 60 ct at my local walgreens.

    primatene sh*ts on bronkaid.. 50mg of bronkaid puts me to sleep, 12.5mg of prim has me wired.

    I can only find small boxes.. i would kill for a 60ct.. i have to buy a box a week lol.
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    primatene sh*ts on bronkaid.. 50mg of bronkaid puts me to sleep, 12.5mg of prim has me wired.

    I can only find small boxes.. i would kill for a 60ct.. i have to buy a box a week lol.
    Can you be a little more specific? What are the huge differences you feel between the two? I've only ran Bronkaid and had nice results on it so if Primatene is better then I will definitely give it a run. However, at twice the price I want to be sure it's worth it.

    From the research I've done, this is the math that I understand is true between Ephedrine HCL and Ephedrine Sulfate. I'm sure you notice the difference because you have no reason to hype Primatene and obviously know what you're doing, I'm just trying to understand what causes it. Anyways, here it is:


    Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.

    Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.

    25 mg ephedrine HCl = 20.5 mg ephedrine

    25 mg ephedrine sulfate = 19.25 mg ephedrine


    Now, just looking at that I can't see that it would be a DRASTIC difference. However, I'm intrigued to find out if that assumption is wrong. It's not a huge deal either way in terms of paying $30 more I just want to learn the how's and why's behind it.

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    yea, this happens every 6 months or so. I think Bayer only does a production run twice a year and they almost always sell lout before the next run. Guess thats good for business.

    Originally Posted by Kabigon View Post
    I believe some people are mistaken the lack of supply as a ban. If you do a google shopping search, you will see that nobody has Bronkaid online right now, however it seems that store pharmacies are still carrying it. I believe Bayer is supposed to start supplying more again within the next month or so. As for Primatene, I found it at numerous places online. However, my local Wal-Mart and Drugstore dot com both have it at around $10 which is the cheapest I've seen it.

    Anyways, enough about that because they are certainly not banned and still available.

    Anyone have answers for my questions on the two products? Thanks!
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    Originally Posted by Kabigon View Post
    Can you be a little more specific? What are the huge differences you feel between the two? I've only ran Bronkaid and had nice results on it so if Primatene is better then I will definitely give it a run. However, at twice the price I want to be sure it's worth it.

    From the research I've done, this is the math that I understand is true between Ephedrine HCL and Ephedrine Sulfate. I'm sure you notice the difference because you have no reason to hype Primatene and obviously know what you're doing, I'm just trying to understand what causes it. Anyways, here it is:


    Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.

    Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.

    25 mg ephedrine HCl = 20.5 mg ephedrine

    25 mg ephedrine sulfate = 19.25 mg ephedrine


    Now, just looking at that I can't see that it would be a DRASTIC difference. However, I'm intrigued to find out if that assumption is wrong. It's not a huge deal either way in terms of paying $30 more I just want to learn the how's and why's behind it.

    Thanks!
    Lol, I really have no answer to give you bro. I can take 50mg of bronkaid and feel sick and sleepy.. it only takes 12.5mg of primatene to have my wired.. but through the years, I have always questioned bronkaid. I normally buy my ephedrine in bulk from canada.. comes in 8mg takes... and 16mg has me shaking. Bronkaid is like no other ephedrine product IMO.. in my experience.. it down right sucks and may be why its cheap. Ive never been able to take enough to feel anything.
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    Originally Posted by BFDabato View Post
    Idk brah, In for answers. But you might want to make sure that they are still supplying Bronkaid and Primatene. Both have been banned from my knowledge, and CVS's have taken them off their shelves.
    False.


    OP: Ephedrine is ephedrine. You've done your research, you've noted the virtually non-differing amount per tablet of each form. "Feeling" something doesn't equate to it working, caffeine & ephedrine will still potentiate fat loss even though it may not be felt -- and longer periods on EC may even show increased effect iirc (even with increased stim tolerance or possible reduced appetite suppression being "felt").

    The sulfate aspect may simply allow for slower absorption if I had to guess (similar to differing amphetamine salts for extended release adderal), so you wouldn't be "hit" like the HCl moiety does for primatene.

    If you want the amphetamine-like feelings, try the Primatene I suppose. I haven't tried it, but might give a box a run if I can FIND ANY.
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    Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it.

    Since I can only find the Bronkaid in 24cts for $6+, I guess now is as good a time as any to give Primatene a run. If I don't like it, more supply of Bronkaid should be out then so no harm done. I would definitely like to be able to compare the two since there are such varying experiences on both. Honestly, I didn't FEEL a lot from the Bronkaid, but I had great results on it. Hopefully, the Primatene will offer similar or better results w/ fully noticeable effects.

    I should still take 25mg w/ Primatene, right? So, two pills for a full dose instead of one with the Bronkaid?

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    Originally Posted by Kabigon View Post
    Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it.

    Since I can only find the Bronkaid in 24cts for $6+, I guess now is as good a time as any to give Primatene a run. If I don't like it, more supply of Bronkaid should be out then so no harm done. I would definitely like to be able to compare the two since there are such varying experiences on both. Honestly, I didn't FEEL a lot from the Bronkaid, but I had great results on it. Hopefully, the Primatene will offer similar or better results w/ fully noticeable effects.

    I should still take 25mg w/ Primatene, right? So, two pills for a full dose instead of one with the Bronkaid?

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    I agree with criticalbench. Not sure why, but primatene is way more intense with me than bronkaid is. So much so that I had to stop using it due to high BP and heart palps.
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    Originally Posted by neddo View Post
    False.


    OP: Ephedrine is ephedrine. You've done your research, you've noted the virtually non-differing amount per tablet of each form. "Feeling" something doesn't equate to it working, caffeine & ephedrine will still potentiate fat loss even though it may not be felt -- and longer periods on EC may even show increased effect iirc (even with increased stim tolerance or possible reduced appetite suppression being "felt").

    The sulfate aspect may simply allow for slower absorption if I had to guess (similar to differing amphetamine salts for extended release adderal), so you wouldn't be "hit" like the HCl moiety does for primatene.

    If you want the amphetamine-like feelings, try the Primatene I suppose. I haven't tried it, but might give a box a run if I can FIND ANY.
    I agree that 'feeling' doesn't normally equate to it working. But with a thermogenic, if you're feeling hotter with one more than the other you would think it is working better. OP, try both and see which one you like more.
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    Realistically, the thermogenic effect (ie, raised bmr) isn't what drives EC to be as effective as it is. IIRC, it's an increase of 40 kcal burned or so...maybe? I could be wrong, it's been a while.
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    Originally Posted by neddo View Post
    Realistically, the thermogenic effect (ie, raised bmr) isn't what drives EC to be as effective as it is. IIRC, it's an increase of 40 kcal burned or so...maybe? I could be wrong, it's been a while.
    Yea i've always read 2-3% increase in your BMR, but won't the heat effect also help you burn more calories while actually exercising?
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    Originally Posted by neddo View Post
    Realistically, the thermogenic effect (ie, raised bmr) isn't what drives EC to be as effective as it is. IIRC, it's an increase of 40 kcal burned or so...maybe? I could be wrong, it's been a while.
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    [QUOTE=slimwealthy1;832783051]I agree with criticalbench. Not sure why, but primatene is way more intense with me than bronkaid is. So much so that I had to stop using it due to high BP and heart palps.[/QUOTE

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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    It is b2,3 agonism, cf. cAMP cascade
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    Just posting in case people search bronkaid. I received pretty solid results from Bronkaid. At one point Primatene appeared to be the clean E, but I believe it has since added a lot of small ingredients...probably to look legit as medicine. I cut 30 lbs and got pretty shredded pretty quick. Along with 200mg caffeine (which is critical) the stack made me a mad man for about 6 weeks in the gym. Double sessions, daily cardio, basketball, all of it. I cannot speak to primatine results because I have not tried it, but others posts do have me intrigued enough to give it a whirl if I do another cut.
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    primatene sh*ts on bronkaid.. 50mg of bronkaid puts me to sleep, 12.5mg of prim has me wired.

    I can only find small boxes.. i would kill for a 60ct.. i have to buy a box a week lol.
    drugstore,com has them 10.99 60ct
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    primatene sh*ts on bronkaid.. 50mg of bronkaid puts me to sleep, 12.5mg of prim has me wired.

    I can only find small boxes.. i would kill for a 60ct.. i have to buy a box a week lol.
    You crazy.
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    Strong bump, but thought I'd add my 2cents for the folks on google:

    been using bronkaid for over a year cycling off here and there. cvs told me it was discontinued - stupid kunt appears to be fraudin.

    they sold me some CVS brand primatene instead. noticed quite a difference this morning. It hit stronger for sure. I know because I use bronkaid every morning (though typically I just do 1 dose a day in the morning to get me going).

    what this means - I dont know. But I definitely felt the stimulant affect and the bronchodilation more
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    Looks like I'm running Primatene for my E/C stack here in a few weeks instead of Bronkaid (think I am going to stack it with DCP as well), I'm really interested to see if I can feel the results.

    PS My favorite thing to do with an E/C stack is wake up about 30 min before I have to, pop the E/C and go back to sleep. Not sure if it's a placebo effect or what but sometimes I just wake up absolutely wired and I effin love it.
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    So I am reading all these posts and trying to decide how to get that "boost" and hit it hard core at the gym to shed this weight.
    So if I get Primatene and take how much of I with caffeine ... I'll get better results??? How much of both???
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    Originally Posted by SummerHottie View Post
    So I am reading all these posts and trying to decide how to get that "boost" and hit it hard core at the gym to shed this weight.
    So if I get Primatene and take how much of I with caffeine ... I'll get better results??? How much of both???
    Use the search function, all the answers you need can be found quite easily.
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    primatene sh*ts on bronkaid.. 50mg of bronkaid puts me to sleep, 12.5mg of prim has me wired.

    I can only find small boxes.. i would kill for a 60ct.. i have to buy a box a week lol.
    I also think Primatene > Bronkaid from personal experience. I don't know why but Primatene has always worked better. Which reminds me, I should pick some of this up tonight.
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    Can I get some more anecdotes from people on if there is a difference? I bought a pack of bronkaid in 2018 and finally finished it and need to reup.

    I'm hearing that primatene is better but bronkaid would be more convenient because the pill is bigger so less doses.
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