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    Where would a peak Lee Haney be placing today?

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    honestly lee haney was ahead of his time for sure, but it's pretty obvious that today the name of the game is conditioning and SIZE... size being most important. even a peak lee haney didn't have the size needed to compete with today's tops. plus his conditioning is what most people would consider 4ish weeks out today... i would say IMHO that he would be battling to place, maybe around 10th if he's really on and others come in off

    edit: not saying that he wasn't amazing, he def was, but if judging by today's standards he wouldn't do very well
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    I do not think he would be struggling to place in the lineup today. The man won 8 Olympias...

    Realistically probably Top 5-8, could definitely see him breaking Top 4 at his best conditioning. Take that and add today's drugs, then there is a winner.
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    i think if he had access to todays training principles and AAS, he wouldve been able to easily compete in the current mass game. after all, he did usher in the start of it, but was able to maintain a tight waist and even do a vacuum. IMO he has potentially the best physique of all time, perfect balance of the famous 70s shape and mass


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    I think his back at least would be final callout worthy.
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    is this thread serious? do you guys even follow pro bodybuilding today? lee haney wouldn't stand a chance of qualifying for the olympia these days let alone even placing, he'd be lucky to get top 5-6 in most pro line-ups and thats at mid tier shows. The difference in conditioning and size now is ridiculous compared to back then. Not saying haney wasn't one of the all time greats it's just reality he would fail hard in this day and age half the top guys at nationals dwarf lee haney.
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    probably behind Sergio and Arnold and Dorian and Coleman
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    Originally Posted by valiantmiller16 View Post
    is this thread serious? do you guys even follow pro bodybuilding today? lee haney wouldn't stand a chance of qualifying for the olympia these days let alone even placing, he'd be lucky to get top 5-6 in most pro line-ups and thats at mid tier shows. The difference in conditioning and size now is ridiculous compared to back then. Not saying haney wasn't one of the all time greats it's just reality he would fail hard in this day and age half the top guys at nationals dwarf lee haney.
    i agree that if we threw him in a time travel machine and got him to compete now, he wouldnt do that well. my point was that he would have the potential to do serious damage had he been born into this era.
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    Originally Posted by valiantmiller16 View Post
    is this thread serious? do you guys even follow pro bodybuilding today? lee haney wouldn't stand a chance of qualifying for the olympia these days let alone even placing, he'd be lucky to get top 5-6 in most pro line-ups and thats at mid tier shows. The difference in conditioning and size now is ridiculous compared to back then. Not saying haney wasn't one of the all time greats it's just reality he would fail hard in this day and age half the top guys at nationals dwarf lee haney.

    Size aint everything, youngster. Haney would kick plenty of ass in this era too.
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    Originally Posted by jiveinhere View Post
    i agree that if we threw him in a time travel machine and got him to compete now, he wouldnt do that well. my point was that he would have the potential to do serious damage had he been born into this era.
    maybe so but you could say that about allot of bodybuilders from back then but different drugs effect people differently who's to say haney would react well to igf,gh,slin etc and not become a gut monster, if he would even morally take those sort of drugs to try and compete on the top level again is something he probably wouldn't do. closest thing to lee haney now is probably cedric mcmillan or edd nunn
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    Size aint everything, youngster. Haney would kick plenty of ass in this era too.
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    Not very well, IMO. Great chest, great back and one of the best waists of all time, but his lower body was far too weak to do much damage these days. Plus, conditioning has vastly improved since his time.
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    Dexter w0n at 225 lbs and lee haney was cl0se t0 250 lbs. Str0ng lack 0f kn0wledge s0me 0f y0u have.
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    Dexter w0n at 225 lbs and lee haney was cl0se t0 250 lbs. Str0ng lack 0f kn0wledge s0me 0f y0u have.
    except lee haney's contest weight was 245 usually and he would have to lose atleast 10-15 pounds to come in with todays conditioning you sir are retarded plus dexter was smaller lee haney was 5 10-11 so your argument is yet again invalid.
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    with lee's wheels being of a different ere i'd say he'd be competing with this guy...






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    He would probably place top 10-15 at a National NPC event
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    with lee's wheels being of a different ere i'd say he'd be competing with this guy...






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    except lee haney's contest weight was 245 usually and he would have to lose atleast 10-15 pounds to come in with todays conditioning you sir are retarded plus dexter was smaller lee haney was 5 10-11 so your argument is yet again invalid.
    he w0n't need t0 l0se 10-15 lbs y0u idi0t. He beat guys like labrada and gaspari wh0 have better c0nditi0ning than a l0t 0f guys t0day.
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    Originally Posted by devo09 View Post
    he would probably place top 10-15 at a national npc event
    l0l. Tell that t0 any judge and they'd laugh at y0u. AN 8 X MR 0LYMPIA IN HIS PRIME N0T PLACING IN T0DAY'S LINEUP. I BET Y0U BELIEVE TH0SE NPC GUYS W0ULD WIN THE MR 0LYMPIA T00 BACK THEN.
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    I guess Arnold wouldn't do too well against the competition these days either.
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    Originally Posted by sshred32 View Post
    i do not think he would be struggling to place in the lineup today. The man won 8 olympias...

    Realistically probably top 5-8, could definitely see him breaking top 4 at his best conditioning. Take that and add today's drugs, then there is a winner.
    pretty much this. LEE HANEY PR0BABLY HAD THE BEST STRUCTURE AND PR0PR0TI0N 0UT 0F ANY C0MPETIT0R. 0N T0P 0F THAT HE HAD N0 SITE INJECTI0NS 0N HIM. EVERYTHING WAS 100 PERCENT REAL WITH F0UNDATI0N.
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    he w0n't need t0 l0se 10-15 lbs y0u idi0t. He beat guys like labrada and gaspari wh0 have better c0nditi0ning than a l0t 0f guys t0day.
    wow your argument is shocking, bodybuilding is completely different in terms of judging criteria now back then a guy with the shape and lines of lee haney would beat the more conditioned guys. Obviously you don't follow bodybuilding in this day and age but thats not how it works anymore usually the biggest most conditioned guy wins and haney like someone said would get outsized and out conditioned by allot of NPC guys and for haney to come in peeled today he would need to lose a 10-15 pounds and that's being generous his back side was soft and his legs were as weak as your posts...oh an asbrus is the lowest scum on the boards (worst rank) lol
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    Originally Posted by Black Hercules View Post
    I guess Arnold wouldn't do too well against the competition these days either.
    I've always thought that 74 Arnold was better than Haney.
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    Originally Posted by valiantmiller16 View Post
    wow your argument is shocking, bodybuilding is completely different in terms of judging criteria now back then a guy with the shape and lines of lee haney would beat the more conditioned guys. Obviously you don't follow bodybuilding in this day and age but thats not how it works anymore usually the biggest most conditioned guy wins and haney like someone said would get outsized and out conditioned by allot of npc guys and for haney to come in peeled today he would need to lose a 10-15 pounds and that's being generous his back side was soft and his legs were as weak as your posts...oh an asbrus is the lowest scum on the boards (worst rank) lol
    everything y0u said in y0ur p0st is wr0ng. I never said haney w0uld win. I said he w0uld still place in the t0p 10 at the mr. 0lympia. Haney w0uld n0t get 0utsized by all the npc guys. There are npc middleweights and light heavyweights that win the 0verall. AGAIN LACK 0F KN0WLEDGE. C0NDITI0NING HAS TAKEN A BACKSEAT. ALS0 THE M0RE C0NDITI0NED GUY WITH THE BETTER PR0P0RTI0NS AND LINES WILL ALWAYS IN THE AMATEURS 0VER THE BIGGER GUY. THIS IS A FACT BY ANY0NE WH0 F0LL0WS THE SP0RT. THIS IS WHY Y0U SEE A L0T 0F SMALLER GUYS TAKE 0VERALL S0METIMES AND BEAT THE BIGGER GUYS IN THE AMATEURS. AMATEURS IS BASED LESS 0N SIZE.


    GUYS ARE N0 L0NGER C0NDITI0NED N0W LIKE THEY WERE IN THE EARLY 1990'S. WHERE D0 Y0U GET THIS GARBAGE THAT C0NDITI0NING BACK THEN WAS N0T IMP0RTANT? T0DAY THE F0CUS IS M0RE 0N SIZE AND LESS 0N C0NDITI0NING. EVERY0NE SAYS THAT INCLUDING D0RIAN AND KEVIN LEVR0NE. L00KS LIKE Y0U HAVEN'T BEEN F0LL0WING B0DYBUILDING 0R Y0U'RE JUST A RETARD. 0H BY THE WAY GE0RGE FARAH SMALL GUY G0T 12TH PLACE AT THE MR 0LYMPIA AND HE D0SEN'T H0LD A CANDLE NEXT T0 HANEY.
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    Originally Posted by SeanRector View Post
    joj would mop him..
    ^this.

    lee haney's peak physique stands no chance against today's line up.
    great back no doubt but he wouldn't even place top 10 at the O.

    this obviously takes nothing away from him.
    he was great in his own era and that's all that counts.
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    I think he could crack the top ten but he'd really need to bring his lower body up.
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