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    BP oil false flag: Problem Reaction Solution to replace failed Copenhagen agenda

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    So wait a minute. I can remember towards the end of last year when the Copenhagen talks were all the rage. There were many people, not only in this forum but elsewhere, claiming that these talks would lead to a one world government. Now that some months have passed since these talks took place in December, the fact that these talks didn't do anything are now seen as evidence for a conspiracy? And just to refresh everyone's memories, I did a quick search and turned up a number of threads and posts claiming that the Copenhagen talks would lead to a one world government.

    There'll be nowhere to run from the new world government
    'Global' thinking won't necessarily solve the world's problems, says Janet Daley

    The committee to save the world: Barack Obama, Nicolas Sarkozy, Angela Merkel, Gordon Brown and other leaders at the Copenhagen climate talks Photo: AFP/GETTY
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    Here is a link to an entire thread about how the Copenhagen talks will cede US sovereignty. The information comes from Christopher Monckton, the Kent Hovind of global warming.

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    NWO came into being because of Copenhagen talks.

    https://igoodies.000webhostapp.com/?viagra=showth...ght=copenhagen

    UN plans Green NWO

    https://igoodies.000webhostapp.com/?viagra=showth...ght=copenhagen

    Avatar part of NWO/Copenhagen conspiracy.

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    That's what I could find in just a few minutes, I'm sure are is more.
    Here's enemy terrorist traitor puppet Soetoro's idea of "kicking ass & holding BP "accountable"":

    Never let a crisis go to waste...
    Direct email campaign to 'sell' people on global warming & Cap & Trade ( using Oil Spill).


    "An email from Obama:
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    Dear (person still on email list)...

    The BP oil spill in the Gulf Coast is the worst environmental disaster of its kind in our nation's history. I am returning to the region today to review our efforts and meet with families and business owners affected by the catastrophe.

    We are working to hold BP accountable for the damage to the lands and the livelihoods of the Gulf Coast, and we are taking strong precautions to make certain a spill like this never happens again.

    But our work will not end with this crisis. That's one of the reasons why last week I invited lawmakers from both parties to join me at the White House to discuss what it will take to move forward on legislation to promote a new economy powered by green jobs, combat climate change, and end our dependence on foreign oil.

    Today, we consume more than 20 percent of the world's oil, but have less than two percent of the world's oil reserves. Beyond the risks inherent in drilling four miles beneath the surface of the Earth, our dependence on oil means that we will continue to send billions of dollars of our hard-earned wealth to other countries every month -- including many in dangerous and unstable regions.

    In other words, our continued dependence on fossil fuels will jeopardize our national security. It will smother our planet. And it will continue to put our economy and our environment at risk. We cannot delay any longer, and that is why I am asking for your help.

    Please stand with me today in backing clean energy. Adding your name will help Organizing for America create a powerful, public display of support for making this change happen.

    The time has come, once and for all, for this nation to fully embrace a new future. That means continuing our unprecedented effort to make everything -- from our homes and businesses to our cars and trucks -- more energy-efficient. It means rolling back billions of dollars of tax breaks to oil companies so we can prioritize investments in clean energy research and development.

    Many businesses support this agenda because shifting to clean energy creates opportunities for entrepreneurship. This is how we will reinvent our economy -- and create new companies and new jobs all across the country.

    There will be transition costs and a time of adjustment. But if we refuse to heed the warnings from the disaster in the Gulf -- we will have missed our best chance to seize the clean-energy future we know America needs to thrive in the years and decades to come.

    The House of Representatives has already passed a comprehensive energy and climate bill, and there is currently a plan in the Senate -- a plan that was developed with ideas from Democrats and Republicans -- that would achieve the same goal. But this is an issue that Washington has long ignored in favor of protecting the status quo.

    So I'm asking for your help today to show that the American people are ready for a clean-energy future.

    Please add your name to mine:

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    "I got this in email... but in that mail they reference the website, where they may repeat the message.


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Barack Obama <info@barackobama.com>
    Date: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:54 AM
    Subject: XXXXXX, will you stand with me?
    To: XXXXX@XXXXXX


    XXXXXX --

    The BP oil spill in the Gulf Coast is the worst environmental disaster of its kind in our nation's history. I am returning to the region today to review our efforts and meet with families and business owners affected by the catastrophe.

    We are working to hold BP accountable for the damage to the lands and the livelihoods of the Gulf Coast, and we are taking strong precautions to make certain a spill like this never happens again.

    But our work will not end with this crisis. That's one of the reasons why last week I invited lawmakers from both parties to join me at the White House to discuss what it will take to move forward on legislation to promote a new economy powered by green jobs, combat climate change, and end our dependence on foreign oil.

    Today, we consume more than 20 percent of the world's oil, but have less than two percent of the world's oil reserves. Beyond the risks inherent in drilling four miles beneath the surface of the Earth, our dependence on oil means that we will continue to send billions of dollars of our hard-earned wealth to other countries every month -- including many in dangerous and unstable regions.

    In other words, our continued dependence on fossil fuels will jeopardize our national security. It will smother our planet. And it will continue to put our economy and our environment at risk. We cannot delay any longer, and that is why I am asking for your help.

    Please stand with me today in backing clean energy. Adding your name will help Organizing for America create a powerful, public display of support for making this change happen.

    The time has come, once and for all, for this nation to fully embrace a new future. That means continuing our unprecedented effort to make everything -- from our homes and businesses to our cars and trucks -- more energy-efficient. It means rolling back billions of dollars of tax breaks to oil companies so we can prioritize investments in clean energy research and development.

    Many businesses support this agenda because shifting to clean energy creates opportunities for entrepreneurship. This is how we will reinvent our economy -- and create new companies and new jobs all across the country.

    There will be transition costs and a time of adjustment. But if we refuse to heed the warnings from the disaster in the Gulf -- we will have missed our best chance to seize the clean-energy future we know America needs to thrive in the years and decades to come.

    The House of Representatives has already passed a comprehensive energy and climate bill, and there is currently a plan in the Senate -- a plan that was developed with ideas from Democrats and Republicans -- that would achieve the same goal. But this is an issue that Washington has long ignored in favor of protecting the status quo.

    So I'm asking for your help today to show that the American people are ready for a clean-energy future.

    Please add your name to mine:

    http://my.barackobama.com/CleanEnergy

    Thank you,

    President Barack Obama

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    I see that you've completely resigned yourself to the fact that you simply cannot escape from the fact that you routinely play both sides, and regardless of facts achieve your goal, which is whining and complaining about life.

    Aspartame producers should be killed.....


    but government should not ban aspartame.
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    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    It's so easy to be a CTer:

    IF the government legalizes drugs:
    They want us all to be sick and sedated, the unhealthier we are the more the medical-industrial "complex" mates

    IF the government bans drugs:
    They want to create a criminal underclass, they just want a reason to put us in jail, etc etc

    IF the government legalizes aspartame:
    It's all a conspiracy, they just want cancer rates to go up so the "cancer industry" can make more money, and we can all be lazy and easily controlled

    IF the government mandates healthy lifestyles
    They just want to control every aspect of our lives

    No matter what, whine and moan like a little bitch, and you are set. It's really pathetic to see these effeminate losers complain about how their life sucks because of "them". It's always, always "them". Never will these idiots even think for a second about taking some modicum of responsibility for their own pathetic lives.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Should the government ban aspartame or not? Simple question.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    This is an astoundingly simple question that Kailuani has completely failed to answer. Why? Because it exposes his pathetic contradictions to their face. CTers are notoriously indecisive, because any decision can easily be made to "look like" a conspiracy. So, what do they do instead?

    MAKE NO DECISIONS, then blame the people that do.

    A bunch of haters sitting on the sidelines. Pathetic.
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    LOL@ 24 minutes later equaling "completely failed to answer". I go days on end without even reading this joke of a forum sometimes.

    Now to answer your question:

    The people who are creating and adding the deadly toxin Aspartame to food and beverages should be arrested and tried for premeditated, willful bodily destruction/murder. Citizens arrest since the police and govt. are so corrupt that they would never lift a finger. It isn't the govt's responsibility to ban anything, --but this presumes that the govt. is benevolent and does ANYTHING in the interest of the people's well-being. The terrorist who run the govt. shouldn't be allowed to walk around freely collaborating with big pharma and corporations to put this poison out for public consumption.

    The govt. creates problems so that they can then later come in and offer to be the savior when the only thing they are gaining is more illegal power over peoples lives. The govt. is illegitimate, period.

    The Food and Drug Administration is an Un-American, terrorist organization in which everyone should be arrested that works for it, and the FDA dismantled and shut down. They are trying to ban natural, safe sweeteners while lying and saying that artificial sweeteners are safe. When there is mounds of unimpeachable proof that show the FDA is full of sh*t.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    So the creators of aspartame should be arrested and tried for murder....


    But..... it should be allowed in our food.

    I see....
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    Logic failure.

    If they were arrested, the manufacturing facilities would also be shut down. The personnel that formerly worked on getting it into food products would all be in prison. Therefore Aspartame wouldn't exist anymore. Which means it wouldn't be in anyones food.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Your logic is an entire failure. Why would they be arrested? Because they are producing an illegal substance? Who would decide that this substance is illegal, given that you believe the government should not regulate food?
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    Engineering soft-kill chemical weapons for public consumption isn't a crime?
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    You aren't getting it, who has to deem it as illegal? If the government doesn't make it illegal, WHO WILL?

    Can I unilaterally apples to be soft-kill chemical weapons, and then subsequently arrest apple growers?

    If you support making aspartame illegal (which I do, it is a harmful substance), then you are supporting government regulation.
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    The federal govt. doesn't have to get involved. The federal government doesn't deem the health care bill they passed as illegal either. Know who's going to make that illegal if the individual states don't? The people will have to, or submit to it's tyranny and enjoy being even more of a slave. The only way the people will be able to do that is via self defense.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    How can any group of people unilaterally deem a substance illegal? Or do you mean that state governments should regulate these things? So aspartame could be banned in Nevada, but could be perfectly legal in Ohio?

    Really, you don't make any sense. Can any one individual, or group of individuals, unilaterally deem certain substances, such as aspartame, illegal?

    What you are suggesting (a "War on aspartame") will only create an aspartame smuggling industry. Then ten years later when jail cells are filled with aspartame smugglers, you will forget your motivation for banning aspartame in the first place, and subsequently suggest that the ban on aspartame is part of a government conspiracy.
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    "Illegal" is not applicable to the discussion. It is a poison. If someone breaks into your home, you have the inaleinable right to shoot and kill them dead for threatening your life.

    If someone threatens your life over a long distance with a slow-kill chemical additive, explain how all of these terrorists couldn't be arrested under citizens arrest by millions of people.

    By your logic you would defend a company like I.G. Farben that created the Zyklon B gas to exterminate the Jews. You would consider it terrorism and fascist if instead of the Jews allowing themselves to be murdered, they went and stormed I.G. Farben and assassinated all of the employees of the company and burned down the manufacturing facility.

    People in 3rd world countries have attacked Monsanto employees and burned their crops and equipment to the ground in protest. Again, a fascist act according to psamty. Slaves in the U.S. would never have the guts to fight real terrorists like Monsanto who defend Aspartame.

    In your world, things are only fascist if individuals seek to fight tyranny, you never consider any govt. action as fascist because you think it's for our own good and that we should shut the f*ck up and obey the govt. because they know what's best. I'm done with this thread--there is no viable response against anything I have said here. It's no skin off my back that you love being a dumbass slave.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Explain how they could be arrested. What legal procedure would be involved that didn't involve government?

    Alcohol is also a slow-killing poison. Can a bunch of me and my buddies start making "citizens arrests" on alcohol producers?

    You have no understanding of law whatsoever, by the way. A citizen's arrest CAN ONLY be made IF the citizen witnesses a FELONY taking place. Which means, there can be no citizen's arrest if the government has not deemed the action illegal prior. Even if you believe aspartame is a slow-release poison, selling poisons is not a felony. Individuals have the inalienable right to purchase poisons if they so choose, and, if they so choose, to consume those poisons.

    The alternative to this is that one could unilaterally declare any product illegal and make a citizen's arrest. Your position is not well-thought out at all.

    Again, why is it you are against the "War on drugs" but are hugely supportive of a "War on aspartame"?
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    The same way that protestors in 3rd world countries attacked and destroyed Monsanto's poisonous GMO sh*t. No government involved there. Just individuals rightfully defending themselves against bioweapons.


    People have a choice to consume alcohol or not. Aspartame is put into some foods without it even being on the label. GMO food is toxic as well, and NONE of that is labeled in the U.S.

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    Protestors burn 16 NATO tankers in Logar to protest killing of civilains

    Militants have killed at least four police officers in a gun battle following an attack on a NATO fuel cargo in eastern Pakistan which left a dozen tankers ablaze.


    I applaud these actions, real NATO terrorists suffered losses. NATO can burn in hell and should be completely wiped out of existence.
    These individuals also routinely "defend" themselves against poverty by killing and raping their wives if they don't provide enough dowry. I guess since government isn't involved it's a good thing?

    Again, can me and my buddies go on a spree where we "defend" ourselves against apples by burning apple-farms and killing apple-farmers?



    So you are suggesting there should be a government regulation requiring that aspartame should be clearly labeled? I fully agree.

    Now, note that this directly contradicts your earlier statement about government regulation being unnecessary.

    Individuals cannot pass regulation by the way. I cannot pass a regulation that all apples should be colored blue and then kill all apple-sellers who sell red apples. Regulation can only happen through consensus, and consensus must go through the proper channels. Did you ever take a civics class?
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    Green Nazi Terrorists go batshít crazy because they no longer control L. Graham

    Environmental groups lash out at Graham over energy flip
    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0614/exc...m-energy-flip/
    By Sahil Kapur
    Monday, June 14th, 2010 -- 12:23 pm



    Environmentalists are livid over Sen. Lindsey Graham’s (R-SC) recent change of heart on comprehensive energy reform, after he spent months pledging to work with Democrats on a bill and to help court Republican votes.

    In separate interviews, leaders from two environmental groups accused Graham of deliberately deceiving progressives and pandering to his conservative base after sapping their enthusiasm by weakening the reforms.

    "I think he’s just been bluffing all along," said Ivan Frishberg, political director of Environment America, in a telephone interview with Raw Story. "It just doesn’t make sense to draft legislation and then say you’re going to vote against it."

    After declaring in a New York Times op-ed, "climate change is real and threatens our economy and national security,” Graham told reporters Wednesday that "the science is in question" and that progressives have been "alarmist" and "oversold this stuff." The senator’s vow to oppose the Kerry-Lieberman climate bill, which he helped craft, effectively guarantees a Republican filibuster.

    Frishberg wasn't willing to accept the sincerity of Graham's change of heart. "He knew working on this bill would be unpopular with his base, and he said he didn’t care, he wanted to do what was right," Frishberg said. "It just means we can’t trust his word anymore."

    A Greenpeace activist disparaged Graham's impact on the negotiations, and alleged he's simply coming to terms with certain progressive realities, even as he's rhetorically shunning others.

    "Graham has played a key role in the effort to turn climate and energy policy into a bailout for dangerous polluters by promoting offshore oil drilling and nuclear power," Kyle Ash, Global Warming Legislative Representative for Greenpeace, told Raw Story in an e-mail.

    "Senator Graham’s recent reversal looks like the actions of a shrewd politician who understands that any effort to expand oil drilling will fail, as the true cost of dirty energy sinks in on the Gulf Coast," Ash added, urging the Senate to instead ignore "polluter lobbyists" and sound the siren for a "clean energy revolution."

    The South Carolina senator said he continues to champion oil drilling, citing as one of his concerns the limits placed on offshore exploration after the spill.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has told colleagues he will move on an energy bill next month. The Gulf spill, far from galvanizing support for an overhaul, has dampened its prospects – some Democrats have withdrawn their support for offshore oil drilling while Republicans won’t negotiate without such a provision.

    After Graham's reversal, a Senate Democratic aide closely involved with the issue told Raw Story that legislation with a carbon cap won’t garner the votes, but strongly believed a scaled-back clean energy bill will pass this year. The House energy bill, approved last summer, will be defunct in January.

    Frishberg had a similar view: "We know the Republican leadership will do everything they can to play to the Tea Party and stop any kind of comprehensive energy and climate act," he said. "But there is a substantive and political imperative to getting it done this year. The battle is over what it will be."
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    Green Nazi Terrorists at BP losing hearts and minds-promise to capture oil at 3x

    Under pressure, BP suddenly finds ‘quicker’ solution
    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0614/bp-...-day-official/
    By Agence France-Presse
    Monday, June 14th, 2010 -- 11:50 am



    WASHINGTON — Under intense US pressure, energy giant BP presented a new plan to roughly triple the amount of oil it is capturing from a ruptured Gulf of Mexico well by the end of June, to more than 50,000 barrels a day.

    "After being directed by the administration to move more quickly, BP is now stepping up its efforts to contain the leaking oil," the official said Monday on condition of anonymity.

    "They have now outlined a path to contain more than 50,000 barrels of oil per day by the end of June, two weeks earlier than they originally suggested," the official said.

    The oil company is currently siphoning up about 15,000 barrels of oil a day to a ship on the surface, about half of the 25,000 to 30,000 barrels believed to be streaming into the Gulf.

    In a letter, BP outlined plans to bring a vessel for producing and storing oil from South America, two additional tankers from Europe and a 3,800-foot, six-inch flexible pipe from Brazil to reinforce the existing efforts to suck up crude from the leaking well.

    The outlines of the plan were produced as President Barack Obama was to depart on his fourth visit to the Gulf since an April 20 explosion destroyed a BP-leased deepwater rig, unleashing the worst oil spill in US history.

    Obama is to address the nation in a speech from the Oval Office on his return on Tuesday, the official said.

    With new estimates showing that the oil is gushing into the Gulf at a rate double what was previously thought, the administration on Saturday said it had given BP 48 hours to come up with a revised plan to contain the leak.

    Under its original plan, BP said it could expand its containment effort to capture between 20,000 to 28,000 barrels a day by mid-June and 20,000 to 50,000 barrels by mid-July.

    The revised strategy would increase the capture of oil to a range of 40,000 to 53,000 barrels a day by the end of June, which would grow to 60,000 to 80,000 barrels a day by mid-July, according to the administration official.

    However, BP cautioned in its June 13 letter to Coast Guard Rear Admiral James Watson, "The quoted numbers represent installed design capacities and any unplanned events will impact actual delivery."

    The administration official said: "We will continue to hold BP accountable and bring every possible resource and innovation to bear."

    Obama is scheduled to meet at the White House Wednesday with top BP officials, including chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg and possibly CEO Tony Hayward, amid increasingly testy relations between the administration and the oil giant.
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    Green Nazi Terrorists try to seize control of a nuclear facility
    Green Nazi Terrorists try to seize control of a nuclear facility
    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0614/gre...nuclear-plant/
    By Agence France-Presse
    Monday, June 14th, 2010 -- 12:15 pm



    STOCKHOLM — Police arrested some 50 Greenpeace activists on Monday who broke into a Swedish nuclear plant demanding that parliament reject the building of new nuclear facilities, the environmental group and police said.

    "Around 50 activists were arrested" at the Forsmark nuclear power plant near Uppsala, north of Stockholm, local police spokesman Christer Nordstroem told AFP, adding he did not know the exact number of arrests.

    "Now we think there are no activists left" on the premises, he added.

    Another police spokesman, Olle Rehn, told Swedish news agency TT that out of the 50 or so arrested, three were taken into custody and suspected of aggravated trespassing and breaching Swedish security law.

    Swedish, German, Norwegian, French and Polish citizens were among those arrested, Rehn added.
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    Greenpeace put out a statement earlier Monday saying around 30 people would enter the Forsmark facility to conduct a peaceful protest against an expected decision to expand nuclear power production in Sweden.

    Sweden, which currently has 10 reactors at three power stations, announced last year it had reversed a decision to phase out nuclear power, and parliament is set to vote Thursday on whether to expand nuclear facilities.

    "The activists demand that Swedish members of parliament vote 'no' to new nuclear power on June 17 and instead bet on renewable energy," Greenpeace said, adding its protesters were ready to stay put until the day of the vote.

    On its website, Swedish public radio showed activists dressed as white wind turbines and yellow sunshines -- allusions to wind and solar power -- , with one activist preparing to go over the plant's fence using a ladder truck.

    Marie-Louise Marsh, a security guard at the plant, told the Swedish news agency TT that she saw a fire truck, reportedly with French plates, back up to the fence, with three activists then hopping over the fence using ropes.

    "I saw two activists dressed in yellow and two dressed in blue on the roof" of the 60-metre (200-foot) high reactor building, she added.

    The power plant moved swiftly to increase security, it said in a statement.

    "We have heightened our preparedness level and secured all vital areas," Forsmark chief Stegan Persson said in a statement.

    Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt voiced concern, telling TT: "Security work is fundamental and decisive for the Swedish people's confidence in Swedish nuclear power production."

    The Forsmark plant is owned by the Forsmark power group, whose largest owner is Swedish state-owned power giant Vattenfall.
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    Originally Posted by Kailuani
    The same way that protestors in 3rd world countries attacked and destroyed Monsanto's poisonous GMO sh*t. No government involved there. Just individuals rightfully defending themselves against bioweapons.
    Would you be okay with environmentalists rightfully defending themselves against nuclear power plants. What if they just go and blow up the plant? With no government involvement....
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    "But our work will not end with this crisis. That's one of the reasons why last week I invited lawmakers from both parties to join me at the White House to discuss what it will take to move forward on legislation to promote a new economy powered by green jobs, combat climate change, and end our dependence on foreign oil."

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    These overwhelmingly huge disasters of criminal EPA gutting, corruption and deregulation, national defense incompetence, irresponsible corporate regulatory oversight and criminal multinational corporate irresponsibility and mismanagement has nothing to do with oil or energy!

    Anything that the fascist, established religious AshkeNAZI Zionist traitor, Leiberman supports is most certainly a power grab by the AshkeNAZI Noble World Order and must be totally opposed by all who treasure their religious freedom, the cornerstone of all Freedom itself.

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    Today, we consume more than 20 percent of the world's oil, but have less than two percent of the world's oil reserves. Beyond the risks inherent in drilling four miles beneath the surface of the Earth, our dependence on oil means that we will continue to send billions of dollars of our hard-earned wealth to other countries every month -- including many in dangerous and unstable regions.

    In other words, our continued dependence on fossil fuels will jeopardize our national security. It will smother our planet. And it will continue to put our economy and our environment at risk. We cannot delay any longer, and that is why I am asking for your help.
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    Originally Posted by Kailuani
    The same way that protestors in 3rd world countries attacked and destroyed Monsanto's poisonous GMO sh*t. No government involved there. Just individuals rightfully defending themselves against bioweapons.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Would you be okay with environmentalists rightfully defending themselves against nuclear power plants. What if they just go and blow up the plant? With no government involvement....

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    These individuals also routinely "defend" themselves against poverty by killing and raping their wives if they don't provide enough dowry. I guess since government isn't involved it's a good thing?

    Again, can me and my buddies go on a spree where we "defend" ourselves against apples by burning apple-farms and killing apple-farmers?



    So you are suggesting there should be a government regulation requiring that aspartame should be clearly labeled? I fully agree.

    Now, note that this directly contradicts your earlier statement about government regulation being unnecessary.

    Individuals cannot pass regulation by the way. I cannot pass a regulation that all apples should be colored blue and then kill all apple-sellers who sell red apples. Regulation can only happen through consensus, and consensus must go through the proper channels. Did you ever take a civics class?
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    He constantly posts new threads
    His accusations and predictions are routinely proven false
    He subsequently runs away from those threads, starts brand new rantings, and demands that everyone shut the f*ck up and believe what he's saying, because this time, he has it right.

    And if you don't agree, you should be Banned/silenced, raped with barbed wire, and sent to hell for your soul to burn for all eternity.

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    He constantly posts new threads
    His accusations and predictions are routinely proven false
    He subsequently runs away from those threads
    He is the absolute definition of an intellectual coward
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    And if you don't agree, you should be Banned/silenced, raped with barbed wire, and sent to hell for your soul to burn for all eternity.

    Question everything! (Except Anti_Illuminati/Kaiulani)
    Wow, I really see a lot of questioning of me going on in this thread (that is not off-topic).

    Last time I checked, I can't ban (silence) anyone.

    Last time I checked, I didn't have the power to send anyone to hell.

    Why are you so afraid of things that are 100% impossible to ever happen while ignoring the government who is doing the equivalent of raping you and your family with barbed wire and creating hell on Earth for you to live in?

    P.S. I fully expect to see these ridiculous, meaningless talking points again, always posted in lieu of actual, relevant discussion. Your job is to prevent people from having the incentive to research any information that is contrary to your status quo that you try to enforce on this forum, and come to conclusions on their own, without being subject to your propaganda.
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    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    Wow, I really see a lot of questioning of me going on in this thread (that is not off-topic).

    Last time I checked, I can't ban (silence) anyone.

    Last time I checked, I didn't have the power to send anyone to hell.

    Why are you so afraid of things that are 100% impossible to ever happen while ignoring the government who is doing the equivalent of raping you and your family with barbed wire and creating hell on Earth for you to live in?

    P.S. I fully expect to see these ridiculous, meaningless talking points again, always posted in lieu of actual, relevant discussion. Your job is to prevent people from having the incentive to research any information that is contrary to your status quo that you try to enforce on this forum, and come to conclusions on their own, without being subject to your propaganda.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    It's so easy to be a CTer:

    IF the government legalizes drugs:
    They want us all to be sick and sedated, the unhealthier we are the more the medical-industrial "complex" mates

    IF the government bans drugs:
    They want to create a criminal underclass, they just want a reason to put us in jail, etc etc

    IF the government legalizes aspartame:
    It's all a conspiracy, they just want cancer rates to go up so the "cancer industry" can make more money, and we can all be lazy and easily controlled

    IF the government mandates healthy lifestyles
    They just want to control every aspect of our lives

    No matter what, whine and moan like a little bitch, and you are set. It's really pathetic to see these effeminate losers complain about how their life sucks because of "them". It's always, always "them". Never will these idiots even think for a second about taking some modicum of responsibility for their own pathetic lives.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Should the government ban aspartame or not? Simple question.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    This is an astoundingly simple question that Kailuani has completely failed to answer. Why? Because it exposes his pathetic contradictions to their face. CTers are notoriously indecisive, because any decision can easily be made to "look like" a conspiracy. So, what do they do instead?

    MAKE NO DECISIONS, then blame the people that do.

    A bunch of haters sitting on the sidelines. Pathetic.
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    LOL@ 24 minutes later equaling "completely failed to answer". I go days on end without even reading this joke of a forum sometimes.

    Now to answer your question:

    The people who are creating and adding the deadly toxin Aspartame to food and beverages should be arrested and tried for premeditated, willful bodily destruction/murder. Citizens arrest since the police and govt. are so corrupt that they would never lift a finger. It isn't the govt's responsibility to ban anything, --but this presumes that the govt. is benevolent and does ANYTHING in the interest of the people's well-being. The terrorist who run the govt. shouldn't be allowed to walk around freely collaborating with big pharma and corporations to put this poison out for public consumption.

    The govt. creates problems so that they can then later come in and offer to be the savior when the only thing they are gaining is more illegal power over peoples lives. The govt. is illegitimate, period.

    The Food and Drug Administration is an Un-American, terrorist organization in which everyone should be arrested that works for it, and the FDA dismantled and shut down. They are trying to ban natural, safe sweeteners while lying and saying that artificial sweeteners are safe. When there is mounds of unimpeachable proof that show the FDA is full of sh*t.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    So the creators of aspartame should be arrested and tried for murder....


    But..... it should be allowed in our food.

    I see....
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    Logic failure.

    If they were arrested, the manufacturing facilities would also be shut down. The personnel that formerly worked on getting it into food products would all be in prison. Therefore Aspartame wouldn't exist anymore. Which means it wouldn't be in anyones food.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Your logic is an entire failure. Why would they be arrested? Because they are producing an illegal substance? Who would decide that this substance is illegal, given that you believe the government should not regulate food?
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    Engineering soft-kill chemical weapons for public consumption isn't a crime?
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    You aren't getting it, who has to deem it as illegal? If the government doesn't make it illegal, WHO WILL?

    Can I unilaterally apples to be soft-kill chemical weapons, and then subsequently arrest apple growers?

    If you support making aspartame illegal (which I do, it is a harmful substance), then you are supporting government regulation.
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    The federal govt. doesn't have to get involved. The federal government doesn't deem the health care bill they passed as illegal either. Know who's going to make that illegal if the individual states don't? The people will have to, or submit to it's tyranny and enjoy being even more of a slave. The only way the people will be able to do that is via self defense.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    How can any group of people unilaterally deem a substance illegal? Or do you mean that state governments should regulate these things? So aspartame could be banned in Nevada, but could be perfectly legal in Ohio?

    Really, you don't make any sense. Can any one individual, or group of individuals, unilaterally deem certain substances, such as aspartame, illegal?

    What you are suggesting (a "War on aspartame") will only create an aspartame smuggling industry. Then ten years later when jail cells are filled with aspartame smugglers, you will forget your motivation for banning aspartame in the first place, and subsequently suggest that the ban on aspartame is part of a government conspiracy.
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    "Illegal" is not applicable to the discussion. It is a poison. If someone breaks into your home, you have the inaleinable right to shoot and kill them dead for threatening your life.

    If someone threatens your life over a long distance with a slow-kill chemical additive, explain how all of these terrorists couldn't be arrested under citizens arrest by millions of people.

    By your logic you would defend a company like I.G. Farben that created the Zyklon B gas to exterminate the Jews. You would consider it terrorism and fascist if instead of the Jews allowing themselves to be murdered, they went and stormed I.G. Farben and assassinated all of the employees of the company and burned down the manufacturing facility.

    People in 3rd world countries have attacked Monsanto employees and burned their crops and equipment to the ground in protest. Again, a fascist act according to psamty. Slaves in the U.S. would never have the guts to fight real terrorists like Monsanto who defend Aspartame.

    In your world, things are only fascist if individuals seek to fight tyranny, you never consider any govt. action as fascist because you think it's for our own good and that we should shut the f*ck up and obey the govt. because they know what's best. I'm done with this thread--there is no viable response against anything I have said here. It's no skin off my back that you love being a dumbass slave.
    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Explain how they could be arrested. What legal procedure would be involved that didn't involve government?

    Alcohol is also a slow-killing poison. Can a bunch of me and my buddies start making "citizens arrests" on alcohol producers?

    You have no understanding of law whatsoever, by the way. A citizen's arrest CAN ONLY be made IF the citizen witnesses a FELONY taking place. Which means, there can be no citizen's arrest if the government has not deemed the action illegal prior. Even if you believe aspartame is a slow-release poison, selling poisons is not a felony. Individuals have the inalienable right to purchase poisons if they so choose, and, if they so choose, to consume those poisons.

    The alternative to this is that one could unilaterally declare any product illegal and make a citizen's arrest. Your position is not well-thought out at all.

    Again, why is it you are against the "War on drugs" but are hugely supportive of a "War on aspartame"?

    You've already been exposed as an NWO troll. Go back and suck off your masters, your attempts to push forward their propaganda are failing miserably.
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    Copenhagen, run by a bunch of NWO puppets, decided that they didn't want to play their hand of cards TOO soon, because everyone would know that they were Illuminati, so they make it look like the conference failed, when really that was a ruse.

    They then blow up an oil rig for the lulz, in order to screw over big oil (which supposedly is a major part of the NWO conspiracy), and somehow pass "Cap and Trade", even though it has absolutely NOTHING to do with what happened....

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    Wow, I really see a lot of questioning of me going on in this thread (that is not off-topic).
    Well, since you generally fail to answer on-topic questions, we figured that maybe some off-topic inquiries would get your attention.

    Like I said, you're a laughingstock, and nothing more than an amusing diversion in the evening. The fact that you actually get irate and hyper about it... Simply assist in highlighting the true lunacy of your positions.

    The great NWO that runs the world, yet by your own admission - they endlessly fail at everything you claim they're doing.
    (Hint: Read your own thread title...)
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    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    Wow, I really see a lot of questioning of me going on in this thread (that is not off-topic).

    Last time I checked, I can't ban (silence) anyone.

    Last time I checked, I didn't have the power to send anyone to hell.
    The point is... YOU DESPERATELY WANT TO! It's laughable that you pretend others are suppressing the truth, when we're the ones posting that truth - along with proof of our statements, and honest discussion & debate with anyone who doesn't need to resort to your level of violence and profanity.
    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    There should be a forum rule that states: "Anyone touting that Al-Qaeda is not the CIA will be automatically banned without warning--we do not tolerate **** for brains ignorance on this forum, learn the f*cking facts or go sodomize yourself with barbed wire."

    Why are you so afraid of things that are 100% impossible to ever happen...
    The irony is too much in that statement.

    How's the martial law coming along?
    The war with Iran?
    What about the endless deaths, quarantines, and forced vaccinations that H1N1 was supposed to usher in (before you constantly changed your story, every time the FACTS proved your latest version was wrong)?
    Why weren't all of our guns confiscated last fall?
    What happened to the Civil War last winter?
    Did we all miss the endless false flag terror attacks that influenced the election to support McCain? Or that allowed Bush to cancel the elections and remain in power?

    NONE OF YOUR INSANITY EVER COMES TRUE. Documented in endless quotes and updates to your threads - which are summarily ignored.

    Yet every time I've asked you to provide provide proof of my alleged "lies"... You also remain silent (unless you play the absurd game that anyone who disagree with you is automatically guilty of "High Treason" ).

    Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati View Post
    NWO run US Govt. hell bent/moving ultra fast to haul off millions to be murdered

    Posted: 6-28-2008. "Ultra-Fast", huh?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    The point is... YOU DESPERATELY WANT TO!
    The point is the government is ALREADY doing infinitely worse, and that isn't an "accusation", it's in everyone's face--but you don't want people to focus on that. I'm not the one writing the laws that is turning this country into an ever oppresive police state.

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    The irony is too much in that statement.
    There is no irony, because I am not afraid. If I was afraid, I would be hiding out from paranoia instead of posting on a public forum viewable by the govt.

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    How's the martial law coming along?
    We've been under martial law for years, there's varying degrees of it. Just because we aren't under full blown nationwide lockdown doesn't mean we aren't under martial law.

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    The war with Iran?
    Do you f*cking read the news? The govt. has been chomping at the bit to start a war with Iran for years (i.e. through Israel). Just because there is no war yet doesn't dismiss the fact THAT THE DESIRE IT. IT ISN'T A F*CKING PREDICTION.

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    What about the endless deaths, quarantines, and forced vaccinations that H1N1 was supposed to usher in (before you constantly changed your story, every time the FACTS proved your latest version was wrong)?
    This has been explained in other threads, and once again, is an invalid talking point. YOU chose to ignore the large body of text that I wrote explaining the rest, and now you think you can come in here to use it as a distraction. Go fight the terrorists in the US govt. who are destroying the lives of your family, friends and you if you're such a patriot.

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Why weren't all of our guns confiscated last fall?
    I never said everyones guns were going to be confiscated last year. There's an agenda to disarm the public, doesn't matter if it takes 100 years. Time frames are irrelevant, only INTENT is relevant. You cannot have a rational discussion, so there's no point in you pretending to. When you claim that everything I say is framed as a prediction--by default you are proving that you don't want ANY other discussion other than endlessly pasting QUOTES from other threads where I am always allegedly wrong because I allegedly made "pedictions".

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    What happened to the Civil War last winter?
    That's an illegitimate talking point to bring up because it has already been explained in previous threads. Your are trying to regurgitate things that have already been put to bed in the context that they were in. That being said, do you seriously think that the continuing collapse of the economy isn't going to lead to mass civil unrest? You'll be cheering on terrorists like DHS and Northcom when they gun down American citizens who do the same thing that the Greeks and Icelanders did in their countries.

    Has the mass civil unrest against the financial terrorist bankers in Greece and Iceland been "conspiracy theories" as well?

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Did we all miss the endless false flag terror attacks
    You don't believe that there is even such a thing as false flag terror attacks even when false flags like the Gulf of Tonkin to illegally get us in the Vietnam war have been admitted by former SECDEF McNamara. So the rest of the busy-body unfruitful bull**** you add to the rest of your question framed as a complete lie out of the starting gates is totally illegitimate. All presidents are puppets. Hillary would have been the same as Mitt Romney, McCain, or Barry Soetoro.


    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    NONE OF YOUR INSANITY EVER COMES TRUE.
    Guess what? History doesn't "come true", it's already happened (i.e. the 9/11 FALSE FLAG which you IGNORE ALL REAL EVIDENCE DEMONSTRABLY PROVING SUCH). NONE of the rest of what I post is posted "AS A PREDICTION" it is posted as showing the elite's INTENT. I love how WHEN THINGS CHANGE, CHANGE suddenly becomes categorized as a "FAILED PREDICTION". HAHAHAHA.

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Yet ever time I've asked to provide provide proof of my alleged "lies"... You also remain silent
    Oh yeah, like I remained silent about exposing about many times how your a liar that the Joint Resolution by Congress legally authorized the president to use military force against Iraq? Where's the proof of WMD in Iraq after 9 years?
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