How much of it you eat.
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09-26-2008, 12:59 AM #6
well no crap, eating 1 big mac a day won't make you fat if you don't go past x (X being your BMR + workout etc.)
But instead of a big mac you could eat 100 stems of celery, 10 pounds of broccoli, and bunch of other healthy crap. In the end, the more calories vs calories in works and wins. You can get fat off cottage cheese =)Last edited by Alexinator; 09-26-2008 at 01:00 AM. Reason: typo
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09-26-2008, 01:02 AM #7
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Some clean foods are very dense, such as almonds. "clean" foods will be clean regardless of how much you eat of them. That's not to say it's fine to eat all of them you want... but there is a definite difference between 400 calories of lean steak and 400 calories of cupcake frosting.
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09-26-2008, 03:47 AM #13
Let's talk about a caloric surplus, the subject you know nothing about apparently.
Prove to me that you will gain fat "differently" with a food deemed "unhealthy" vs. a food deemed "healthy" if both puts the user in the same caloric surplus.
This of course is if the required amount of protein, efa's, and vitamins in ones diet are met.
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09-26-2008, 04:00 AM #14
I've never got my head around this either. Apart from things like vitamins, if you ate say a bigmac a day vs toast + cottage cheese a day, with the exact same amount of carbs/protein/fats - is there a difference? I keep hearing this "it effects your body composition" thrown around without any facts to back it up. Does it come down to things like absorption and digestion rate and the amount of useful protein your body can absorb?
e.g. does your body more effectively use a 5lb steak as a source of protein than a processed beefburger? I have no knowledge of how the body works but in my mind a beefburger would be more effectively utilised as its ground = bigger surface area!
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09-26-2008, 08:25 AM #26You focus your mind to train your body, and the changes that begin to take place impact your mind as well. Dream it, believe it, and you will achieve it. ~Arnold Schwarzenegger, The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding, 1998
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09-26-2008, 08:39 AM #28
I'm really confused here. I thought the macronutrient composition of the food we eat has a specific effect on our endocrine system. Isn't it also true that more calories are used to metabolize protein than carbs? If this is true, then I can't see the effect of a 100 calorie surplus of protein being equal to that of a 100 calorie surplus of carbs. I think the point you are trying to make is that a calorie surplus will make you gain fat regardless, but I think the effect is not equal. Advise
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09-26-2008, 08:48 AM #29
"bad foods" will most likely affect various hormonal responses of your organism in many different ways. higher Glycemic index, insulin spikes, trans fat will all affect your health sooner or later and make you less energetic, thus less active with less calories burnt. Also deficiencies in vitamins, fiber and minerals might also affect your metabolism and your ability to maintain LBM. I might agree that for some people, those things could be somehow "forgiven" but in the long run, time will take its toll.
Nutrition interferes with our genes and the way they are expressed, so eating what we are supposed to eat is much more than just a calorie in-calorie out issue.
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09-26-2008, 08:50 AM #30
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