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    Smile Hello, Shoulder Injury Help Please...

    Hello guys, I am new here, but I am into power lifting (recently started) and want to learn more. I have a specific question for this post though.

    I read a great deal on these forums and on the web about shoulder injuries. The thing is there were so many different causes listed. I do have a shoulder injury, which I have had for years, and its never been any worry because I never feel it unless I work out so really I haven't felt it for years now. I don't even know how I got it, I just remember that it was there years ago and I would feel it doing certain exercises.

    Now that I am working out again it is back, it's not really any excruciating pain, but it can be fairly bad on certain exercises and range of motion is limited on certain exercises. When I am not working out, I feel it, but not that bad unless I lift my hand way up in the air or something, otherwise I don't remember it. The only other thing that happens now that never used to years ago is when I go to sleep, I always wake up feeling sensation in my shoulder. Its my right shoulder and only the front portion.

    Massage helps a little. What I wanted to ask is if I should see a doctor about this and if you guys think I can fix it without surgery or stopping certain lifts. It is kind of weird to me, I feel it most of all when doing flat chest exercises like the bench, its really affected my bench and also when doing dumbbell curls for my biceps. When I do preacher curls, I don't feel it though. Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...

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    Read this article by C. Poliquin: (it should help a bit)

    "The Causes of Shoulder Pain during Bench Pressing:

    I am often asked about ways to reduce shoulder pain during bench pressing. In my experience, there are three main causes of shoulder pain during bench pressing:

    Improper Muscle Balance: If the strength ratio between two muscle groups is off-kilter, you can actually experience faulty alignment. For example, if the strength of your pectorals is far greater than that of the external rotators of the humerus (teres minor and infraspinatus), you'll likely feel a sharp pain in the superior anterior portion of the upper arm (this problem is often misdiagnosed as bicipital tendinitis).

    There are lots of other examples of off-set muscle/strength ratios, but explaining them all is beyond the scope of this article. Imbalances can be evaluated by any Level 1 Practical certified PICP coach. Please consult the site for the certified coach nearest you, or get certified to learn the methodology.

    Adhesion Build-Up: One of the regrettable side effects of years and years of weight training is the build-up of adhesions in soft tissues and surrounding structures. Adhesions are a result of the load used and the total volume of repetitions. In other words, the more sets and reps you perform and the stronger you've become, the more adhesions you've developed.

    These connective tissue buildups can take place within the muscle, between muscle groups, or between the nerve and the muscle. Adhesions can occur in any muscle structure but the one most often responsible for bench-press induced shoulder pain is the subscapularis muscle. The good news is that they can be found and "cured" quickly through a soft-tissue management technique called Active Release Techniques.


    Lack of Flexibility: Failure to stretch the muscles on a regular basis can precipitate the onset of injuries. Thankfully, you don't need to become the Grand Master of Yoga to solve this problem. Regular P.N.F. stretching of the shoulder girdle before your upper body workouts will do wonders for keeping your shoulders healthy and functional. I'll be doing an article about stretching on this website soon.

    An Anecdote: Milos Sarcev

    A few years ago, my good friend and IFBB professional bodybuilder Milos Sarcev called me out of the blue. He mentioned that he was scheduled to have arthroscopic surgery the following week for both of his shoulders.
    He was understandably upset. For one thing, the surgery would cost him about $18,000. Additionally, he'd have to undergo an extensive rehab program. This would keep him from competing and earning an income for a long time. I told him to get his ass over to my office right away and see my partner and ART specialist Dr. Mike Leahy before letting a surgeon anywhere near his shoulders. (Incidentally, the orthopedic surgeon who made the initial diagnosis told Milos that he had an impingement syndrome and surgery was the ONLY option. The surgeon actually wanted to cut away some of the bone above the shoulder to make room for the muscle.)

    When Milos came to the office, he hadn't trained in over four months because of the excruciating pain. Even lowering an unloaded Olympic bar (45 pounds) caused him to recoil in pain. However, after working on him for just 45 minutes, Dr. Leahy told Milos to go to the gym and give his shoulders a trial run. Somewhat reluctantly, Milos allowed me to take him to the local World Gym. In total disbelief, he bench-pressed 315 pounds for two reps. Five days later, he did 6 reps with 315 pounds without feeling any pain!
    A month later, he saw Dr. Leahy again for a follow-up. Milos was already back in near-contest shape and he was training full-force for some upcoming IFBB shows. Dr. Leahy made a few minor, additional "probes," but, all-in-all, Milos was cured.

    The important point to realize is that you don't have to suffer or quit training because you have shoulder problems. Depending on your particular problem, either ask a PICP certified strength coach to help you design a proper routine, or locate a credentialed Active Release Techniques Provider.
    To find a credentialed Active Release Techniques Provider, please visit www.activerelease.com . Remember, use only credentialed ART providers. There are far too many doctors who are more than willing to experiment with your body.

    That?s all for now. Remember, there is always more than one way to solve a problem. "

    Dr. Leahy is the best their is at ART (he invented it). But , there are a lot of really good practitioners out there that may be able to help you.
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